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David Ko
David Ko is an American business executive and #1 Amazon bestselling author who served as CEO of the mental wellness app Calm, and previously held leadership roles at Yahoo! and Zynga.
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Sep 4, 2026
The Sh*t Show: is your retirement safe? Are you sure?
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Richard BusellatoGUEST
That basically shook European manufacturing down to the core because they couldn't get the supply they needed for their factories to run because a lot of the input goods comes from the Far
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33:52David KoGUEST
And the push for greater efficiency and greater productivity is about affordability.
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33:59David KoGUEST
We need things to be affordable for the consumption to continue so that we can continue to have the returns that goes into our pensions and make those returns.
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34:10David KoGUEST
And if you think of the pensions, as Joe pointed out, about $70 trillion of direct actual pensions.
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Rapid Response: The "Most Stressed" Wellness CEO, with Calm's David Ko
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16:03David KoGUEST
Um, and we've seen that young children today can have addictive type tendencies, and I've seen it within Calm itself, where during COVID, for example, a large part of our user base grew within young adults.
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16:20David KoGUEST
And we had a lot of schools and universities reach out to us about working with them going forward.
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16:27David KoGUEST
So we've actually s- now starting w- working with a lot of universities and middle schools, for example.
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16:32David KoGUEST
And many of them were reaching out because they are finding that, you know, mental health isn't something that turns on when you're 17, 18, or 19, or you're an adult.
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The “most stressed” wellness CEO, with Calm’s David Ko
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16:49David KoGUEST
Um, and we've seen that young children today can have addictive type tendencies, and I've seen it within Calm itself, where during COVID, for example, a large part of our user base grew within young adults.
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17:06David KoGUEST
And we had a lot of schools and universities reach out to us about working with them going forward, so we've actually just now starting w- working with a lot of universities and middle schools, for example.
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17:18David KoGUEST
And many of them were reaching out because they are finding that, you know, mental health isn't something that turns on when you're 17, 18 or 19 or you're an adult.
8 MINS LATER
The “most stressed” wellness CEO, with Calm’s David Ko
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8:11David KoGUEST
Like we can have great HR teams, but if it's not embraced at the leadership level, I think things can get muted or it's just another benefit.
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8:26David KoGUEST
And what was really fascinating because CEOs need this, they need the details and they need the numbers to know is We went out there and asked them, how are you doing? Over 80% of them said, I'm good.
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8:39David KoGUEST
We're good, right? When you ask that question though, again, because as you know, you have to ask CCE executives the same question twice.
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How’s your battery? Calm CEO David Ko on normalizing mental health at work
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45:21Sameer SrivastavaMODERATOR
So how do you open that dialogue in that type of environment?
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45:31David KoGUEST
And, you know, I was an analyst myself I slept underneath, I actually told my kids this story.
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45:49David KoGUEST
I don't know if I watched that pillow, but it was part of this culture, this hard charging culture.
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52:55Sameer SrivastavaMODERATOR
Comes from Nikhil Kata who asks, what are the top three pieces of advice that you would offer to someone coming out of college who wants to do a startup in the healthcare tech space? And then the second part is looking back on your journey at Calm, what are the biggest mistakes you've made that you would redo if you could?

