What was the moment you realized that, you know, that photography was going to be something that was super important to you?

Oh, I'd probably say it must have been around 2018, I started taking photography.

serious it's never really been anything that i that i was deeply into you know i took a few photographs of the kids playing uh soccer and so on and then the company i was with i've been with them for about 25 years and um executive at that point and a little bit more stress in my life um And I found photography to leave some of that stress.

Never really took it that serious until, yeah, probably around 2018, 2019.

But I had already, you know, just fooling around, just taking pictures here and there.

But I'll tell you, it's probably already... already have been there in my mindset because when I was younger, when I was little, you know, I looked at two magazines, Sports Illustrated, 100% of the time, National Geographic, 100% of the time.

But the National Geographic, those pictures always resonated with me.

So I'm curious, does, does having like that sense of vision, like what really, appeals to you for a photo, do you find that that narrows things down as far as like what you're going to photograph? Or does it kind of like open the world up in a way to like, I can see what I want and more things, or does it feel like you're able to sort of like hone in and just like, okay, this is what it's going to be.