And, and David, I think you fit into that with all of the programs that you've been involved with for a long time now and what your wife was involved with and helping people get through challenging periods in their lives, whether it's poverty or illness or whatever.

Yeah.

Or manufacturer relations.

Um, it's, um, Well, you know, Ron and Caroline, as you know, I spent, I still am involved in the material handling industry and was involved with AED and ARA and NAW and Mejita and all those good things.

And it's one of the, when I talk about education and training, It's interesting because my last gig was 10 years running a nonprofit that was focused on poverty in Philadelphia and families and how to go from maintaining to transformation.

And I think there's a lot of parallels in the transformation model because fundamentally they're coaching models.

So Caroline, when you're teaching people how to become managers or how you come from school to go into industry, at the end of the day, it's coaching.

And it's, it's, it's amazing

But as he was digging through the file, a name caught his eye, someone who had easy access to Tara's home, the maintenance man at her development.

William Bryant Barrett has a master key.

That really makes us wonder, is William Bryant Barrett possibly the killer? When we start looking at his timeline, we know that he shows up on the crime scene at some point the day that her body's found.

And what do you do?

We flail for years, believing that William Bryant Barrett's involved in the death of Tara Baker, and just not having enough to get a warrant for his arrest.