Can you give a few examples of those changes we're likely to see with new manufacturing technologies coming on board, the advent of AI and the embedding of AI and machine learning as an essential toolset for the future of production? How do you change the skills that are focused upon?

Well, the AI topic is not only very current, but it's very important because I think the growth of AI's capability will be exponential.

And therefore the ability to understand and learn will have to change.

And therefore what we are focusing on is preparing our engineering learners, I'll call that apprentices as well, to really look at this technology and look at how they apply it and think about adopting it.

So I also think technology cycles will get shorter.

So they will have to go through numerous iterations of learning new technologies and applying that technology in the workforce, and AI will support that.

So we're currently, for example, doing AI-driven avatars to support our apprentices.

how do you think the uk is doing at the moment in terms of skills creation do you think that we are in a good position with the way that we are educating people in this industry