My house is filled with boxes."

Yeah, I mean, my sense talking to him was that all those things are true, but I do feel like the sociopolitical commentary sprang out of what you were talking about earlier, which is his, like, deep-rooted love for the movies, the early movies in particular, and the movies that were formative for him.

Where he really sort of sprang to life, uh, which was very convenient for my purposes, was talking about the movie as a expression of the joys of parenting, um, as the act of, you know, talking about a bridge earlier, sort of like the act of, of taking something from one generation, showing it to another.

Robots acting like humans to teach humans how to stop acting like robots.

The transference of, of going from consuming everything, as WALL-E's a- done for hundreds of years, to sh- displaying that, to showing that, uh, to someone else, which is a completely revelatory and transformational experience for him.

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Yeah.

Um, but, uh, yeah, that's, that's his latest thing.