think

it's really important to be repetitive, almost boring in the work that you put in that nobody sees except for the face that no one sees yourself.

putting in the work, being relentless.

I chase rejection too.

I love when people reject me because eventually they come back.

I love to make people feel smart and then make them feel dumb afterwards and then hammer them for that, for underestimating me.

And I don't mind revealing this to the world.

A lot of people don't have that.

I mean, how have you been able to develop your signature, if you will, with your, uh, style?

Just trial and error really.

You just have to start.

A lot of people are scared to start, and I moved to New York in 1994 and I went to Parsons School of Design, and I knew I had a vision, and the vision was to get all these images out of my imagination onto paper and to figure out who I was.

It's almost like a, a visual diary.

It started out as passion.

It's an accidental business for me.

I mean, from everything you learned over at Parsons, what was that process like developing your, your look, your, if I could say, swag? You know, how did you find, you know, what was working with your creativity and your passion?