And I wonder if you can talk more about this, the, the testing of your zero, and maybe come up with an example that is classic for you in how this manifests.

Sure.

Um, the, the kind of peace and quiet is the essence of the masculine desire.

The...

So to think of a monk or a, you know, a yogi in a cave or a guy in an office or just to be alone doing their thing, um, guides a lot of the masculine towards where it needs to go.

And so, you know, I'm not sure how to apply this, uh, for your specific, you know, what, what kind of example you would like, but any time the feminine partner or a feminine-identified partner in the moment is bringing something, stuff, energy to the moment, it will feel like a test to the more masculine partner in that moment.

Because the more masculine partner has a choice now.

But so everybody's tracking with us, describe basic man, superior man, and man of zero in terms of having a sense of purpose in life.

And so I'd love for you to speak to that.

I'll try, and you let me know if this is speaking to it or if you want to refine the direction we're going.

Um, people, men, I'll speak about men, they grow through phases.

In this book, I use the basic, the basic man as one phase, the superior man as one phase, and the man of zero as another phase.

And each one, in a way, is when what men identify as their self-worth.

So a, a beginning, like the, the basic m- man, he wants to have enough money, he wants to have security, uh, he wants a partner, if he wants a partner.

You know, some men wanna play the field, so to speak, sexually.

...engage with l- you know, deep sexual connection from that place?

How does this get integrated? What, what, what, what do you do next?

Over...

It takes quite a while for the stability of your being to infiltrate through the patterns of your body mind.

So we have all kinds of patterns in our body mind.

We have traumas.

We might feel aggressive because of the way whatever our father treated us.

We might feel aggressive because we're mammals, and we've inherited a certain degree of aggression.

Like, what, what's the through line? What, what do you want your career to be about and be remembered about?