... as producers, how do you actually identify stories where change is genuinely possible rather than merely televisual or on the surface?

That's, that's, that's a great question.

I'll let Michael talk about the, the casting part, but I'll, I'll say this.

Scout, Michael, and I have always kind of had one filter for all of our development and programming, and, and, and, and quite frankly, we're so blessed to have as many series as we have in many different genres, right? And, and this particular world of Queer Eye really, you know, set, set the groundwork for, for a new way of, of storytelling, right? Which allowed, uh, authentic vulnerability of humanity to come together, and it was out of that that we really kind of came up with our, our filter, our lens.

Uh, transformation through information told with comedy that has heart.

And, and Rob, all that really, really means in the end is like when I share my story with you, Rob, and you share your story with me, we, we get to see each other's humanity.

Yeah.

I get to know you better, you get to know me better.

What can audiences expect on the night? Has it got that kind of a buzz of the proms about it?

It does, and that's a really good link for me to talk about.

Our amazing conductor, Cillian Farrell, who is a Dublin-born conductor based in Germany, and he's principal conductor in Miningham.

He's making his debut with the orchestra, but the BBC Proms link that we have this year is really lovely.

The mezzo-soprano soloist, Paula Murray, who will be singing the El Garcia pictures.

She's actually singing at the BBC Proms in the middle of the week.

So she's joining us for rehearsals early in the week.

What do you make of it?