Uh, Dave, I'd love to hear, hear your thoughts on this, uh, especially, uh, in relation to the fallenness and finitude idea that you alluded to a little bit earlier.

Uh, yeah.

Well, f-first of all, if, if this person, uh, genuinely, if you will, feels a passion and a desire and an enjoyment in being an engineer, uh, by all means, pursue that.

N-now, I, I...

In other words, as Ryan just said, um, to be a good Christian in the world does not require one to be a pastor, a missionary, an evangelist, a theologian, uh, maybe especially not a theologian.

Um, but [laughs] uh, uh, but I, I think...

So o-on the one hand, we've, we've, uh, perhaps sometimes mistakenly conveyed the message that to be a good Christian, you have to do one of those jobs, be employed in one of those vocations.

Mm-hmm