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David Bodanis

American writer

Sep 13, 2026

47:37
David Badanis, what have you spotted today for the papers? Do you want to continue talking about AI because of all these warnings from the enormous heads of the likes of Anthropic and even Elon Musk has come out saying we need to be careful about AI because in as little as six months time it could be eating us alive.
47:56
There's an analogy that might be useful.
47:58
A while ago, I researched the atomic bomb, the first atomic bomb.
48:02
Why? I was writing a book on the science of it and Einstein and stuff.
48:06
Yes.
48:07
And one of the things that a lot of people asked me was, what was the transcript of the meeting at the White House when they decided to use the atomic bomb? What did Truman say? What did the general say? What did the scientists say? Were the scientists overruled? And people are really interested in that.
48:21
And the answer is that there was never such a meeting.

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55:14
You
54:53
And is this also about strategic competition with China? And is Russia still in the race?
54:59
Uh, Russia is, uh, greatly diminished.
55:00
They have a real lot of practical engineering skills, but China is moving forward.
55:04
So all this is plausible.
55:07
The thing to remember is that it's utterly useless.
55:10
It's, it's simply for the large aerospace companies.
55:13
The, um, uh, it, it, it's, uh...
57:34
What about timelines? I mean, when could we expect this, if indeed it ever happens?

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