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David Barton

David Barton

Activist and author

Nov 2, 2026

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So as he comes to minister, would you please give him a warm welcome to Minneapolis? Thanks, bro.
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Thank you, David.
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Thank you, man.
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Thank you, guys.
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Thank you, guys.
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You can be seated.
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I want to take you into where we are on 4th of July this year.

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My final thoughts are, I can't thank God
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This is just
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between me and you.
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Nobody else is...
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So what happens is you have about, over the last 30 to 40 years for public schools, there's been basically six major publishers of textbooks, whether it's Scott Forsman, McGraw-Hill, whoever it is.
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And for them to make money, which free market, they need to make money to produce, and so that's fine.
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But for them to make money, they need to make sure they can sell their books in some of the biggest states.
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And that tends to be Texas and California.

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I've got that in one chapter.
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Do you have a feeling about this? Um, how confident or y- are you that the Republicans will keep one or both houses?
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Uh, that is totally up to Christians whether they do.
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Now let me, let me put a bigger perspective on that, is right now we have five states that are displaying the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms.
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We have 27 states who have introduced bills to put the Ten Commandments back in classrooms.
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In the state of Texas, they've already passed laws to put prayer and Bible back in schools.
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They've gone back to teaching, uh, creation science.
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Uh, all these things we haven't been able to do in 60 years we're doing again because the court at the Supreme Court level has reversed all this nonsense.

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What say you?
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This
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is where you saw the article last night, the founding fathers were not Christians.
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This is what the academics are telling us.
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So go back to it.
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Let's just kind of pull some of these guys out.
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You may have never heard of Abraham Baldwin, but he's the youngest theologian in America.
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When he was 21 years old, he was professor of divinity at Yale University.
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I'll be back at the end of the program to encourage you once again to please get these materials and share them with other people.
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Last night talked about, I talked about the Declaration of Independence, and those 56 signers that most of us don't know called by name, it's kind of like the American version of Hebrews 11.
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Remember Hebrews 11 is all the great heroes of our faith? And there's good, bad, and ugly in there.
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I mean, there's some guys in there that are great warriors, but you wouldn't want, want them for your pastor, you know, Samson and people like that.
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So there's some...
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And that's the American Revolution, 56 signers.
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They're really different.
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It was coming for a long time just from one side, the, "Leave God out of this, and don't talk to me about being a Christian country," and now it's coming from the other side saying, "No, it actually needs to be a Christian country, and only welcome to Christians."
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Yeah, that is a historical argument, and it's only an argument because Americans don't know their history.
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Um, there were over 300 court cases that declared America to be a Christian nation.
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Uh, the Founding Fathers repeatedly in their writings declared it a Christian nation.
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But it's very different a- and using that terminology triggers so many people.
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But you have to understand that, that being a Christian nation in their definition was not the historic Christian nations of Europe, um, where you had a king, you had a parliament, and we will kill anyone who is not of that flavor.
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Uh, for the Founding Fathers and as the courts explained in those more than 300 rulings, it is the value system.

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Mm-hmm.
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Please help me with my thinking on this.
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This is gonna sound so weird.
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I'm gonna answer your question by going in a different direction and eventually coming back to it.
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So what we face in America right now, I mean, it is the wildest thing to me that the people who most support Islam right now are progressives.
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And the problem with that is the very first group that Islam wipes out after it gets control is progressives.
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But of course they don't know that because that's history.
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And with progressives having taken education now, did you know the only major academic course in America now in high schools, all 50 states that does not have an end of course test is history.

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I remember Madeline Murray O'Hare's son writing about his mother saying, I'm going to use their laws to destroy them, meaning the United States.
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Watch this and I'll be back at the end of the program.
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Benjamin Rush is probably the most unknown founding father who deserves really to be known.
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As a matter of fact, John Adams right there said of all the founding fathers, he said the top three are George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Benjamin Rush.
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Now, we go, Benjamin Rush? Who's he? Well, Benjamin Rush is amazing for many, many reasons.
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He started the first abolition society in America.
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He started five universities.
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Three of them still go today.

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to
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WATCH THIS AND I'LL BE BACK AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM TODAY.
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This is the week of the 250th.
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Now, what we celebrate is the Declaration of Independence, and it's interesting, in recent years, as we've become more secular, we've tried to separate the Declaration from the Constitution.
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Now, we are celebrating 250 years of the Declaration, but the founding fathers did not see those two items as being separable.
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It's like if you create a corporation day, you have the Articles of Incorporation, you have the bylaws.
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The Articles of Incorporation call you into existence, the bylaws tell you how to function under the Articles of Incorporation.
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You can't have one without the other.
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What was it, what was it, since you were kinda raised and, and trained or educated in, in s- i- in a secular way, what event, what it was caused you to go back and actually do all this core research to find out that the, the Revolutionary generation and the founders were actually deeply Christian?
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You know, the, the thing that got me, Steve, I, I came through college and, and high school and even elementary...
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I remember my sixth grade, [laughs] my sixth grade elementary school history teacher told me that George Washington had 26 illegitimate children, giving new meaning to the phrase, "Washington slept here." So I came through school not liking the founders much at all.
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Thought, "Boy, if that's Washington, I, I can do without that." A- and so this is what I had been taught, and what happened was, later in life, as I was an educator, I was a school principal, I taught math and science, um, I actually came across two very old documents.
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They were original documents.
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I came across George Washington's 1796 farewell address, and as I read that, this, this guy who supposedly had 26 illegitimate children spends all...
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In his farewell address, he gives a dozen phenomenal warnings to America how to keep us on track.
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This is putting Ten Commandments in schools, correct?
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What was it, what was it, since you were kind of raised and, and trained or educated in, in s- i- in a secular way, what event, what it was caused you to go back and actually do all this core research to find out that the, the revolutionary generation and the founders were actually deeply Christian?
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You know, the, the thing that got me, Steve, I, I came through college and, and high school and even elementary...
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I remember my sixth grade, [laughs] my sixth grade elementary school history teacher told me that George Washington had 26 illegitimate children, giving new meaning to the phrase, "Washington slept here." So I came through school not liking the founders much at all.
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Thought, "Boy, if that's Washington, I, I can do without that." And so this is what I had been taught.
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And what happened was later in life as I was an educator, I was a school principal, I taught math and science, um, I actually came across two very old documents.
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They were original documents.
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I came across George Washington's 1796 farewell address.

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This is putting Ten Commandments in schools, correct?
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Uh, that's the New South Wales, uh, context, and I'll hand over to David Barton for Victoria.
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Thanks, Anthony.
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Um, and good afternoon, everyone.
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As I was just introduced, my name is, uh, David Barton, and I'm the chief engineer for roads at the Department of Transport and Planning here in Victoria.
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When DTP commenced this process, we, we canvassed key stakeholders on the preferred approach and of, of how we would implement the ATS here in Victoria, and we adopted the following key principles.
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The first is which-- the first of which would be that we would retain our existing, uh, specification numbering system.
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And this was chosen to limit any downstream contractual impacts or cross-referencing issues that would otherwise have, uh, cropped up if we'd changed the system completely.

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So, for example, in ATS fifty-three ten, um, which is the supply and placement of steel in the reinforcement of concrete, um, we now allow the use of grade six hundred, um-
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And I want you to talk about it because I don't think people understand what Obama and Biden did to erase God Christianity and all faiths because we cover a lot you know we had a lot of different witnesses that they just erased them all so let's talk about this so where did God play a factor in our military in the beginning
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when you go back to the very beginning the whole doctrine that we taught military was based on two theologians what they did in 300 AD and 1200 AD Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas on just war theory.
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So all of Western civilization has been taught just war, which is a biblical approach to when is it okay to take lives in battle, when is it not okay, and that defined what a war crime was, was really those biblical standards.
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So if you're fighting a defensive war, that's okay, that's moral.
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Don't like it, but if you get attacked, you have the right to defend yourself.
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If you're fighting a preemptive defensive war, if you're fighting a life that saves someone about to be killed, that's okay.
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But if you're fighting a war of aggression to expand your territories up, that's not okay.

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Um, So where did the Word of God and the Bible and the government, what role did they play in backing our soldiers? You know,
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Welcome.
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I'll tell you, we are so blessed, Ron, in ways that we don't even think about.
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Quite frankly, there's 5,800 years of recorded history.
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Over that period of time, there have been thousands of nations.
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And the University of Illinois and the University of Chicago Law School said, hey, what is the average length of a nation in the history of the world? And they did the research, and for all those 6,000 years, the average length of a constitution or a governing document is 17 to 19 years.
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So we're celebrating 250, and we've got 40 percent of them—excuse me, only 40 percent of Americans that are celebrating the 250th.
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America doesn't realize how blessed we are.
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I was just complaining about the administration, but not my republic.
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Everybody's thinking right now watching the podcast, can I name five? Yeah,
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can you name five? Exactly.
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And so that's what some of this is.
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Now, their faith is super strong.
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This is actually George Washington's first military order.
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And this is Abraham Lincoln.
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This is from Abraham Lincoln, who's repeating George Washington's order.

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So how have we gotten to this extreme And do you see it coming back? Do you see it coming back with a new, younger generation?
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And then as you were researching it, what did the British think of these men who signed the documents?
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You know, that's a really interesting question.
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And the answer to that today is different from what if you'd asked me two months ago.
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And the reason is that one of the things President Trump is doing right now is he's bringing back monuments to help us remember.
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You know, in the Bible, when Joshua went to the promised land, God said, hey, you guys build a really big monument so that when your kids see that and say, what's that all about? You can tell them the story.
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And so there are 400 statues now going up in Washington, D.C. that haven't been there before.
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And they're statues to tell stories.

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So if they can think, then they can look at the different the different principles and think for themselves about whether they make sense or not.
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Yeah.
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And, and I, he is awesome.
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He was, he was a Renaissance guy.
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He's an educator.
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He started five universities, three, three of which still go today.
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Uh, he is called the father of public schools under the Constitution.
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He signed the Declaration, ratified the Constitution, served in three presidential administrations, was director of the US Mint.

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Amen.
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But it seems to me, I would like to get your thoughts on what were the moments leading up to the Declaration? And Jefferson was the author, but he isn't just the only person who brought these ideas into the document, right?
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Yeah, and responding to a comment you just made too, Alice Mary Baldwin, And she came out with a book in 1928 called The New England Clergy and the American Pulpit.
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And she pointed out that of the 27 grievances that appear in the Declaration of Independence, and just to put in context, the Declaration starts with 161 words that support six principles of government.
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It then gives 27 grievances showing how those principles have been violated by Great Britain.
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And then it concludes saying, hey, we're going to do differently.
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We pledge our So when you go to the 27 grievances showing how the Great Britain had violated those six fundamental principles of government, she documents that every one of those grievances had been preached from the American pulpit prior to 1763. has been hearing for 20 years.
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It's interesting, on the 4th of July, when we voted and officially approved the wording of the declaration, at that point, they assigned a committee of three to come up with a new seal for the United States.

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But correct me if I'm wrong, but the great awakening in many ways kind of started to create a cohesive culture within the United States or the colonies at the time.
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W- what is the appropriate way to think back on these men who sacrificed so much to establish our country?
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We all hope that we're all not judged by subsequent generations by mistakes that we made in our life or by things that we believed at one time in our life that we didn't believe later.
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We all hope that our descendants, our, our family descendants, our, our great-great-great grandkids don't look at us and, and hold us up by something that they no longer believe then in the future that we believed here today, whatever that may be.
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And that's the way it is w- with these signers.
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You look ...
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Well, first off, start with the entire world at that time.
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You cannot find a nation that did not have slavery and actively participate in slavery at the time of the Founding Fathers.
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How much of, of a role did Christianity play and, and those men's faith play in the founding documents?
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And she's such a young lady, too.
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Uh, she is the youngest member of the administration as far as that goes, and she is so...
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And so there is, there is something coming that's clearly not your typical public school graduate, you know? And I'm seeing that with Hegseth and what Hegseth doing with the Department of War, and the boldness he has, the, the stuff that he's doing, faith stuff, but also just the woke stuff.
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It, it, it's gone.
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And, and Marco Rubio, I mean, I've seen Marco, I've known Marco a long time, and he has flowered into, man, maybe the next president.
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Who, we'll see.

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it seems to be much worse.
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Yeah, it, it is tough overseas, and this, this is a reflection of the growing secularism that's taking countries across the world.
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Yeah.
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A- and I, I think at some point America's gonna ha- have to get back to being very interval, individualistic rather than groups.
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A- and let me throw out, th- this is probably the biggest thing that, that I am concerned about, and concern's not the right word, that, that I would like to see addressed.
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And that is that for the first three centuries of America, from the time of the Pilgrims, which we covered them a- and what they did, the time of the Pilgrims coming up until about 1900, our whole emphasis in education was teaching students how to think.
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And since then it's been teaching them how to learn.
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Mm.
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You will find that prior to the 1910, '20 kind of frame, you cannot find a multiple choice test, you can't find a fill in the blank, you can't find a true false.
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So all right, kids, time for a test.
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And they had punishment for anybody who didn't enforce
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...
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they, they punish.
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And this is where so many pe- That's where the Underground Railroad gets started.
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And it's, it's not getting people out of slavery to the North.
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You have to leave the United States by and large.
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You gotta get them out of the US, out of the jurisdiction of the federal government.
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Mm.
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... challenge them to enforce it?
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Y- yes, in some ways.
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Lincoln, um, good, glad you raised that, 'cause Lincoln's a product of the Second Great Awakening.
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So the Second Great Awakening kinda starts in about 1790 and goes up maybe 1830 or '40, depending on how you break it.
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Lincoln was born 1809.
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And so Lincoln born in 1809, born into a family, a Christian family, went to church, did all the religious stuff, except his dad is an abuser that gets drunk when they come back from church and beats up the family and the wife and the kids.
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So Lincoln, going to church and seeing this and coming home to Dad, decides, "I don't wanna be a Christian." So he becomes an atheist young, young on.
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Right
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And America has become a very secular nation as a result of absolute untruths, because we didn't get this in school, we weren't taught this, and we didn't seek it out for ourselves.
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Well, and one of the things the Founding Fathers did to try to make sure we wouldn't become secular is part of what's on the table here in front of us, which I, I do wanna go through some of these because this, this right here is a great example.
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When people talk about Jefferson or Franklin and they say, "Well, those guys weren't really religious," and, and I wanna contrast it and say, "Okay, so tell me about John Witherspoon." "Uh, I, I don't know who that is." Oh, okay, well, interesting you don't, because John Witherspoon was actually a pastor at the time he signed the Declaration.
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He was a pastor that had been recruited to come to America from Scotland.
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He was part of the Scottish Enlightenment, the Scottish Great Awakening happening before the American Revolution.
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He was a Presbyterian pastor.
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He'd been recruited by some alumni from Princeton, which was a Presbyterian school, and, and, and back then, every university had to have a pastor to be the president of the university, and they needed a new pastor, and some of the alumni had heard about this incredible minister over in Scotland, John Witherspoon.

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They had a grandfather clause for another year that let it keep going.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, guys.
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Here we are, USS Midway.
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Just by way of background, December the 7th, 1941, Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.
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They also, at the same time, attacked the Philippines and they attacked the island of Midway.
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As it turned out on Midway, there was a Marine, Lieutenant George Cannon, who organized the defenses, was able to keep the Japanese from taking Midway on that day.
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He gave his life that.

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steadfastness in their faith they will need thy blessings their road will be long and hard

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