Mm-hmm.

[lip smack] And so, like, a lot of, um ...

And so with Great America, for very specific reasons, like I just, I remember saying that to Keith, like even before I wrote Great America, when I was, I was pitching the idea to Keith that I wanted to write it, like, a lot of it was like, "This is gonna be the most pink beam shit ever," you know? [laughs] And, uh, and then, you know.

So I think, you know, we w- we, we've been talking about it for a long time, but, uh, and Keith is, is the person to do it because, um, I, I feel like part of Keith's superpower in this too, is that Keith lived in Orange County for a long time and, you know, and, and, uh, close to where, where it all happened, and, you know, we both have special connections.

I was actually born, uh, um, March 19th, 1974, and that was exactly, uh, March 18th through the 20th is when he claimed the pink beam was happening.

Mm

...

Ken Liu.

What is it that's got you? Yeah, currently,

well, I did an interview for, I wasn't really very scared of AI and didn't think it was like this big topic that I cared much about until But doing the Philip K. Deck podcast that I do, I knew it was something that we needed to talk about.

And at one point I read something about chatbots convincing people to commit violent acts and suicide.

And so I reached out to the attorney that represents all these, because I'm part of the class action lawsuit against Anthropic for the stealing of copyrighted material.

Um, so I had contact with the law firm I had because I'm in that lawsuit.

And so I contacted Jay Edelson, who's the attorney who represents all these families.

And I did an interview for dickheads, which I highly recommend people check out because before that interview, uh, And before the research for that interview, I wasn't really freaked out about AI.

already living in the digital world.