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... who's gonna hear me say this, and then they're gonna be like, "You don't know what you're talking about." But, like, you know, if there's a way I close the books and, like, someone else closes the books sl- you know, slightly differently, whatever, that, you know, that may be, uh, something that's significant.

But in engineering, especially in, because we're talking about software companies, this is the engine that runs, that makes the company go.

So you're talking about things like margins and growth and all these other kinds of things.

That's, that's the engine.

Like, so if engineering is super expensive because I'm doing, like you were saying, maybe manual stuff, but, you know, there's a lot of other reasons why, and we can talk about some of them, why your margins might be awful in engineering.

But aside from that, like, most private equity firms that I work with are very interested in product-led growth, and you don't do product-led growth unless your engineering team is working well.

Yeah.