And then we transfer into...

So from there, kind of, you know, in those years where kind of the market was dropping and everybody, the whole housing crisis and stuff was going on, aviation, private aviation kind of became secondary.

And so... work started slowing down um the first shop i was at closed out um the owner kind of was done with with doing aviation completely so he shut us he shut us down um immediately got another job in another general aviation out in chandler did that for for quite a while but again as work was slowing down there wasn't as much going on i started picking up some other odd jobs um knew a bunch of the guys that were working at the Range Pistol Club.

They asked if I could come in and do some training, some firearm training.

I had a lot of experience with firearms.

And so I started doing some training there, some sales there.

And I was working there as kind of a second job while I was still doing the aviation stuff.

And was she in her 20s when she started this?