Right.

You know, kind of like for a college junior, like, whatever, my parents pay my phone bill.

But still, and, and then for this opportunity to come up, I jumped at it.

And, but as you said, we're reinvigorating DSA, and I have done it with people like yourself and Kevin Guest at, at, at USANA, and Danny Lee at 4Life, and Stewart Johnson, who brings us all together with his shows every year, and these people who have become invaluable, um, mentors.

Nevena, the CEO at Pampered Chef, others.

And, and you know, Richard, it, it, it helps because there are times where you feel a little bit lonely, um, as you're pressure testing decisions and wondering if you actually know what you're doing.

In any, in any job, in any role, your confidence goes up and down.

Drop the hammer on them