Good.

So th- there's, there's one word that struck me as this was coming up, and it was used several times by you guys, and it's the concept of having lots of people involved and that camaraderie.

Y- it's a complex word, but it, it's so important, 'cause that's what gets everyone together.

So we talked about it with the players, with the coaching staff, with the support staff, but it's even wider than that.

It's the involvement of all those fans as well.

So what's the trick to get all of those fans involved in this concept? You know, it's, whether it's road shows or whatever, the players and the staff, the coaches getting involved, you know, with players.

There's, there's a lot of work to be done here to make sure that this concept, you know, really comes to fruition, but it's such a good concept.

Only if it exposes Joseph Leiden, yeah.

So what were you doing? You were visiting your nephew's place, were you?

Yeah.

So look, you know, these transmission lines, they, they're coming everywhere.

Some of them are already in place, uh, like the one at my nephew's place in Queensland.

They're there.

They're there for a reason.

Uh, takes the electricity from where the coal areas are, where the power plants are, where the hydro is, straight into town where most of the people live.

They are huge, aren't they?

I'm wondering, do you find that to be something that you also implement in your website strategy?

Absolutely, absolutely.

So we have a general donation campaign, which is where your donate button then links to your general donations.

But we also put the recurring and sponsorship, sponsoring an animal.

We did this for Cranky's Farm some years ago and we used, back then, we used a very sort of, I call them now, long, boring donation forms where you fill in your first name, your last name, your address, your telephone number.

And then you get to your credit card details and, you know, I thought, okay.

So that was working back then when we first started.

And how does that work for you and your company?