Yeah.

And, um- And I, and I said, "You come up to your cell and see it.

Come, come, come on." And, um, and this guy named John Toolan, who was a First Marine Regiment commander, came up, and they put him with us for a couple of days.

And, um, I won't get into the personalities, but some of the chain of command, the senior people in my chain of command were struggling.

Mm-hmm.

And Joe Dunford, uh, uh, was-- who later became the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, John Toolan became a three-star general later.

Those two were friends.

Okay.