Tell me more about that.

We did seasons at Pasha.

We did seasons at Stace.

We did...

We've lived for a while, you know, and so, you know, just because we've been...

And little tours, but I was never a big fan of taking it on tour, you know, because it was like, well, you come to us, you know, it's all here, all the ingredients are here in the north of England, in Leeds, you know, so...

To recreate that somewhere else was much more involved than just taking a few banners and franchising it around the world, you know.

And the numbers.

Yeah

...

I didn't, I didn't really, uh, um, address my DJing should I say.

You know, like, uh, there's been times where I could have been accused of not b- mixing a vodka and orange, you know? I was like, uh, literally all over the place.

But, uh, but e- and again, and me, and, and putting my own music out, I just, for many years it was, uh, I'd be making music, but not even really...

Either putting it out as a pseudonym or under a different name or, or, um, not really broadcasting it.

I don't know if that's a fear of rejection or if it was just I was surrounded by so much good music.

And what about-

How does that come about?

It's crazy.

It's like one of my old nightclubs, which was called Riyadh in time, is now like a Buddhist temple.

It's a meditation retreat.

And there was some anonymous benefactor, we don't even know who it is, bought one of my old nightclubs and donated it to the Kadampa Buddhist movement, the modern Buddhist movement.

And they said, you know, if you need any help, get hold of Dave Beer.

And they were trying to get hold of me.

At its absolute peak, what was a night at Back to Basics? What did it feel like? I