So how do you, you know, what are some of the decision criteria if you were going to build something in AI? What are some of the business decision criteria that you need to worry about if you're going to, you know, start to build these things?

Yeah, well, I look at it a lot like vibe-coded apps are like sort of the new spreadsheets, right? People would not necessarily put a lot of governance around letting people create their own spreadsheets.

And so when you're doing these kind of smaller vibe-coded app efforts, we like to just set people up and let them run.

And what we find is Once they have something in terms of a proof of concept that they like to work with, and maybe it can be more broadly applicable to other people in the team or company-wide, we'll take that and we'll incorporate it into some of the tools that we build.

And so that's when it kind of goes to my team, And one of my full stack developers, you know, which, which nowadays they're really like hybrid product manager slash full stack developers, which is I think a really cool kind of whole separate track we could go down, but they'll take that proof of concept or that app and sort of fold it into the greater thing that we're doing.

And I think that ability to allow people to do that and to really kind of democratize the coding aspect of things is, creates a lot of opportunities for people to be creative and sort of scratch their own itch and solve their own problems.

And, you know, we have a program manager on the team who's never coded before.

How do you kind of balance that? balance those two uh i don't know disparate directions for the organization

Is that correct?

Yeah, but that was totally related, actually.

Okay.

Because I still believe in trying to save lives.

Yeah.

What I knew was, it's an interesting story, is that we had...

We were playing around, and literally I say playing around, in the basement of my house with a computer.

And it'd be good to get a high level overview of where you think our problems are still haven't even been close to being solved yet.