Could the Christian Brothers ask the broader Catholic Church for money?

Oh, look, that's not really a question that I'm in a position to answer.

But I think we have to, um, keep in mind what is the full range of options that we have here, and one that I haven't really been hearing much about in the media is, of course, the National Redress Scheme, which is different to the idea of individual victim survivors needing to go through a lawyer and lodge a civil claim.

The whole purpose of the Redress Scheme, as it was recommended by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, and the establishment of it in 2018, was to try and have an option for survivors to make sure that their needs were being addressed.

And it acknowledges, firstly, the widespread child sexual abuse in many, many institutions in Australia and the ongoing suffering that they've had.

But the importance of the Redress Scheme is to actually hold those institutions to account, but also to recognize that there may be instances such as it appears that we have here, where there isn't capacity to pay and to ensure that survivors do not miss out on, um, appropriate redress payments.

It is a truth that we do not resile from, and it is this which has brought us to this point today." How seriously were the Christian Brothers implicated in the child sexual abuse scandal?

Look, I can't speak specifically for the Christian Brothers as opposed to other organizations, but I was part of the Australian Child Maltreatment Study, one of the chief investigators.

Could the Christian Brothers ask the broader Catholic Church for money?

Oh, look, that's not really a question that I'm in a position to answer.

But I think we have to keep in mind what is the full range of options that we have here.

And one that I haven't really been hearing much about in the media is, of course, the National Redress Scheme, which is different to the idea of individual victim survivors.

needing to go through a lawyer and lodge a civil claim.

The whole purpose of the redress scheme as it was recommended by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse and the establishment of it in 2018 was to try and have an option for survivors to make sure that their needs were being addressed and it acknowledges firstly the widespread child sexual abuse in many, many institutions in Australia and the ongoing suffering that they've had.

But the importance of the redress scheme is to actually hold those institutions to account, but also to recognise that there may be instances such as it appears that we have here where there isn't capacity to pay and to ensure that survivors do not miss out on appropriate redress payments.

How seriously were the Christian Brothers implicated in the child sexual abuse scandal?

So is there a sort of tendency if kids disclose something to a male, a dad, they fob it off because they're like, you'll be fine? Is that something that

carries through? Yeah.

It's hard to tell because, again, we have done some research in this space and my colleague Douglas Russell led some of the work around who young people said they would tell if they had a concern.

So this was a fictional scenario.

We didn't ask have you actually been sexually abused or have you, you know, experienced grooming, but we said some scenarios and we said, you know, if this was to happen to you, who would you tell? And the first, you know, cab off the rank was mum.

Mm-hmm.

or another friend, and dads were way down the line.

Can you tell everyone the difference between a secret and a surprise for kids with sexual abuse?