The health setback that you experienced back in 2022, which I'm sure was life-changing for you.

Oh, yeah, big time.

Yeah, so 17 was a bit of a rough year when my mother got internally ill.

She was given three to six months to live, but she went for two years.

So during that two years, I'd moved back to the UK.

I was going through personal problems myself.

I ended up selling my house in America, coming back to England.

You've appreciated, you've learned from, you just like to say thank you to.

What do you remember about that one?

Yeah, that was amazing.

That was my favorite venue.

Still my favorite venue to this day.

The Chesapeake, Virginia, the conference center.

It was perfect venue for pool.

It was a perfect size.

And

can't even compare myself

to Seve, can you? On a pool scale, I think, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I just like to bring it to the team.

I'm very vocal in the team, let's say, in the team room.

The one thing with me is I never took my own disappointments back to the team room.

So if I got in a bad beat, let's say against Johnny or whatever, I'd never go back to the team room and that guy's waiting to play and I'm going in there throwing my cues about and complaining about this.

I'd never do that.

I'd wait until they've left the room and then I'd have a bit of a scream.

Cup, yeah.

How about your relationship with Carl Boyes and Chris Mellington? The three of you run around quite a bit in that era.

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

So obviously I knew Chris and Carl from Englishpool, especially Chris.

Chris only lives about 20 miles from me.

So when I was sort of 17, 18, just started driving, Chris would have been about 14.

So I used to go and pick Chris up, take him to county matches, which is like West Yorkshire against, let's say, Lancashire or something like that, or Manchester.

Yeah.

They were waiting for him, Darren, outside his hotel every day.

Why don't you take us back to West Yorkshire as a lad, some of your earliest memories growing up there?

Well, back in the 80s, I was born in 76.

In the 80s, it was difficult, wasn't it? With the coal mines and the strikes and everything else.

So, and yeah, we were going through tough times really as a country, but me as a family, I mean, I come from nothing really.

We come from a council estate, which is like owned by the government.

So, yeah, My mother worked in a sewing machine factory and then she had a lot of elf issues during my teens, which she overcome and then sort of like relapsed with mental disorders and that.

So that wasn't easy.

So how old were you when you said, this is what I'm going to do?