Can you talk to us about your background in this? Like what led you here?

Yeah.

And so this is actually a super personal story where And when I was in high school, we went through a lot of things, like a lot of things that I won't trauma dump on you here because we don't need that kind of bond.

We can be cool bonded, not trauma bonded.

And I remember distinctly having this thought.

I don't know if I ever verbalized it, but I remember thinking as we were going through all these different things, we wouldn't be going through half of this stuff if we just had more money.

And part of it is because the women around me who were the checkbook holders in the family, like my mom, her sisters, they were the ones who wrote the checks for the bills, who did the grocery shopping, who made sure we had what we did and everything.

And I like using this different vernacular and instead of being so hard and fast around a budget, but like, does that cause them more stress? Like, so talk to me about what you've learned about how to incorporate your kids into finances and how much do we share? Yeah.

And so I'm going

to have to go to books.

I'm going to have to go to books to figure out money because they can't really tell me about the money stuff that I'm noticing.

So I'm just going to have to read books.

So I started reading books about money, even in college.

And by the time I finished college, I had read enough books that I was like, okay, I've got a plan.

And my friends who were starting to do their job searches or going to graduate school were like, we notice you always have money.

So tell us how financial stress shows up in our mental health and our physical health.