Yo, it's fine." [laughs]

And Al like, "Stack, I need you to get in with me.

I need you..." I'm like, "Cool, you my nigga." The worst decision I ever made.

I end up breaking my toe and playing in these shits, right? For three years, I think every quarter-

[laughs]

I come to the sideline.

I'm sending the ball boy to the, uh, back to get...

MJ like, "Hold on, hold on.

And, and-

... transitioning to another level.

And we really didn't know.

Like you say, how you s- the, the reach of it, it was no social media, none of that.

True.

So we didn't know until like, you know, you come back all of these years later and we create a podcast based on that and you see the response.

Like that's, like we, that's when we really got to see like, "Damn, like they was really, you know, rocking with us." And then everybody doing that like, "Throw one up, do one-" Like it's like, yo, that's crazy.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

I was, like, the only kid, you know, uh, cousin or whatever in the family that grew up with my grandmom and granddad that's in the house.

So I just seen the struggle and, you know, seeing what we was going through and so forth on.

And, like, once they kind of reassured me that I can go lottery, that they kind of confirm it, it was like, that's like $4 million that you passing up on just to go to college.

They kind of just put it in me.

Which I was very patient.

My mom was very stern.

Young.