Did you, was there a time you almost regretted it? It was like ev- nothing was, you know, maybe it wasn't all going as planned, and how you and your wife overcame that.

Yeah.

You know, I don't have a business degree.

My degree was in geographic information system, which is a tech stack, um, under geography.

So my diploma on the wall over there says geography.

And, you know, I didn't, it's a lot of stumbling, you know? You learn stuff along the way.

You learn way more from people's failures than you do with their successes, you know? And I preach this all the time.

Well, describe that to us, but what is that coming up compared to hiring full-time in-house staff?