So Daria, you got started playing old time with Miriam?

Miriam, yeah.

I mean, I had listened to it and, like, learned a couple, like, not old time tunes, uh, by myself for, like, a year and a half.

I was just kind of depressed learning banjo.

And then, yeah, went to a house show, um, with, uh, Sonya and Caspian downtown.

Oh, yeah

... to come and jam, if they wanted to come and jam.

And went back and jammed, and that's how I was just like, "This is old time music.