Maybe you could, everyone kind of knows you, but maybe you could share with us how you came to motherhood and how you mixed that all up with a very active career.

Thank you, Robin.

Thank you for doing this for your 400th episode.

It's really wonderful to support the women in the field.

I was a pediatric cardiologist.

I guess I really loved it when I was a resident because Columbia was very exciting.

The time was 1982 to 85.

What do you think, what could we do to make it a little easier or make it more easy, I would say, for women to be, or parents, not just women, parents to be successful, both in being a pediatric academic cardiologist and also being a good parent? What are we not doing that we might be able to do?

Heart

transplant programs in the United States started in 1984.

So really getting going by 1990.

In order to have an idea of whether or not you should transplant somebody, you had to know what the outcome was going to be without a transplant.

And we really didn't know because the data was not there.

if you can believe it, was before computers.

It was before the ability to share a lot of data.

So I'm going to finish up by just asking you, Daphne, if maybe you could speak to us What do you think was the most important impact that Steve's career had on our field among the many, many important contributions? And I'm wondering if you might be able to share a story or a vignette of interaction with Steve.