Talk to me about condition punishers versus not.

Okay, so when you see that it's quite, I see that quite a lot when people come to me and I'm like, have you been to a trainer before? Yeah, they have, yeah, yeah.

And they're like, no, no,

no, no, no, no,

all the time.

I don't want that from a dog.

My goal for a dog is I don't need to manage it by giving cues of don't do this, don't do that, don't do the other.

I want the dog to walk the world and know what's best to avoid doing and what's okay to do i don't and and there's a number of reasons for that one that's a round rounded way of of fixing behavior if if you want to stop unwanted behavior then the dog has to see it from a dog's perspective as undesirable to do does that make sense yeah the second one is people get pissed off you don't mind if i swear to you because i'm terrible for it no i'll give you the heads up right people We've got work going on.