To be in the same draft class with Kelvin Banks, when you saw him, were you like, this guy again? I'm sure y'all had some dust-ups or some bust-ups in some years playing between Texas and OU, huh?

A little bit, and then especially Jalen Ford.

But me and Kelvin actually share a birthday.

I didn't know that until it was my birthday.

They post, and of course I post him first because he's a great player and everything.

So there's a little bit of rivalry there.

But, you know, now that we're all in New Orleans Saints together, it's like we're a family.

You spent some time here in New Orleans before going to the other guys in the division, but what's kind of been the biggest thing that you've learned from Caden Ellis so far?