Just lay it on me.

Yeah.

Um, so all of this is kind of connected to, you know, take- picking up where we left off in a way.

Um, so, uh, in maybe 2015 or so, I started my project Horse Torso.

Um, and even that was sort of, um, that was a result of my musical tastes changing, but my compositional aesthetic and ideas and just the thing, the idea, the...

How do I say? Like, the, the musical sensibilities that I had as a composer were still in the direction of the very, you know, um, the very dissonant and, uh, atonal and rhythmically chaotic, um, but also wanting to condense things more into song forms and to use grooves that were a little bit more, um, relatable.

It- I don't know if that's the right way to put it, because again, like, it's not, it's not a s- a thing that you should have to analyze.

Mm

you guys are like machines so like i like i know like like danny like you guys like program stuff and then and then like because like danny can literally play anything so like i i just automatically assume like you know that meme that says like when the guitarist programs something and like the drummer's like oh fuck you i feel like that's not a problem for danny at all

It's 100% like that.

It's just after I say, fuck you, I start working on it.

And the fuck you becomes, oh my god, this is going to be a really fun challenge.

Sick.

And honestly, drums are such muscle memory, simplistic process type shit.

I'll be like, oh my god.

but it doesn't really sound jazzy because you're doing insane aggressive hits and