Rock and Ronnie would seriously fight any person you put in front of him, and it's good to see him fighting the gallbladder.

But he's the only one that really gets it, mate, and this is the whole point of IBC.

It's that you can fight anyone, and you're not going to get punished for it when lose or draw.

Like, Ronnie is… pure example of that.

He's had a title fight.

He's dropping down to Bantam now, and he's going to start that division and keeps going the way he's going.

He'll get a shot at a Bantamweight title, but the Dan Gall and Ronnie Hull fight is an exciting fight.

I think

How did you get into the fight game?

So the fight game started.

I walked into a gym called Fight Club.

It was in Burley.

The head coach there known as Fidel.

And I walked in there one day because I was sort of really struggling with the people on Gold Coast.

You know, we've got a saying there that it's a sunny place for shady people.

they're boom boom boom crowds like fucking yeah

pretty much like what do the average Joes who just like some entertainment, like a bit of biffing but aren't invested in the technicalities or not a purist of each of these things, what can you put together to just relate to them?

Well, exactly right.

And nobody had done anything that was targeting, you know, a spectator's perspective.

You know, the average Joe Blow that just wants to watch a couple of guys have a crack.

And, you know, that's what we wanted, like, just repeating what I said.

But Bare Knuckle had the action enough for people, but it was too much.

So it was like, well, let's do like a PG version of that and introduce some gloves and a good rule set.

Well, mate, so from that, when you sort of stopped, you know, or figured out right over the promotion thing with the boxing isn't going on, how long from then until you had the idea about this or something new? Like when did the idea first pop into your head?