You know, if you, if you host an event and were a dick with somebody, that's you done.

I think people like to say it's the character again.

And if people buy into you and like you as a person and feel that there's trust there, you'll get opportunities all the time.

You know, there's people that I've hosted events for, uh, or I've done evenings with, um, you know famous faces and they'll see the other work like open space that you know that's that's my job that's what i do in the week open space concepts and the amount of people that have come to me for structures just through that side of things or have come through me for hosting events because they've seen having that link is you know it's so important and again it comes to you know whether i host an event i always say and i openly have whether it's been to my wife whether it's been to mates when I get that mic and I'm in that room I'm going to give people the best night they've ever had not in that kind of way but you know what I mean when you go up there whether it's hosting an event and you walk out that room you want people to go I want to make that an experience for everyone.

You've got to win the room within five minutes, less.

Amazing

opportunity.

You don't need a massive amount of people.

What would you say is the USP above having sort of like quality products as in, you know, is it people? Is it sort of like the things that how you portray the company itself? Would you say sort of like people are a massive thing within that?

Yeah, I mean, it's important that you've got the full package.

And I'm not just saying this, but anybody that I deal with or garden designers and landscapers will see this.

And it's about how can you not only offer a good product, but stand out and be different.

Key for us is we've got the showroom, biggest showroom for luxury outdoor structures.

You know, you've seen it yourself.

They're on display.

And having that sort of like personable thing that you first of all do with that video is genius.

It, uh, we're all about as a company trying to sort like say how we connect the outdoor to the indoor space etc things like that and something like your structures your kitchens and everything massive part of this especially you know we're having a summer like we've not had for a long time you know what i mean that's only getting more and more popular isn't it

Yeah, I mean, we've always kind of been behind the Europeans when it comes to outdoor living, whether that's structures, kitchens.

We've always been behind that curve in most things that go on.

A few points, COVID, people spend a lot of time in gardens and sat around thinking, well, if this ever happens again, is my garden equipped? And if it happened now, I'm sure there's a lot of people that have got outdoor bars, this and that.

So they can spend more time off the back of that.

the weather you know people are spending more times in the garden um i can only see that being the same you've just touched on this summer's been incredible and again it gets people thinking you know what if we had this what if we had that you know the wellness side of things now outdoor you know pool outdoor pools swim spas outdoor kitchens people are I get the impression that people are not spending as much inside, or even looking to move house now.

They're thinking, well, what can we do to create that outdoor living space in the garden and invest on that side of things?

And your products actually prove that.