Just how much we would regret not taking up the offer, we'd only find out right near the end of the interview.

I would like to answer this question by telling you that I was there at the beginning of Angels, since the beginning.

And at the beginning, I was a little bit skeptic because actually I didn't understand what they really wanted to do.

To be honest, many years before that meeting, we had already started asking BI to do something to favor the development of treatment of stroke in our countries.

But we didn't obtain, you know, the appropriate attention.

Then in 2016, 2015, something happened.

I don't know whether it was the entry in the field of stroke treatment of another possible approach that is mechanical thrombectomy, but the fact is that finally they went to ask us to participate in this project.

But the story of stroke care transformation in Italy begins long before the launch of angels.