It's

quite easy to play Martha because she's a bit gobby and I'm quite gobby.

I'm quite talkative.

I'm quite chatty and my mouth can definitely get me into trouble and I think that's definitely the same between me and Martha.

I think she also wears a hat on her sleeve and I think she doesn't fit in either.

She's one of the workers at Misselthwaite Manor, yes, but...

it almost feels like she's always getting it wrong or she's always in the wrong place and she doesn't quite know how to socially and i guess with her class how to fit in in this space all of the children feel otherness for whatever reason and it feels like they can find that connection together feels really nice to talk about disability from i guess a working class perspective that's something i'm always on my high horse about i feel like sometimes disability can be shunned into quite um affluent spaces or privileged spaces and there's not a lot of us from working class backgrounds who are as

artists why do you think disability is pushed into kind of middle class and you you see more maybe middle class disabled people on tv as contributors to things than disabled working class people?