So could you walk us through how you got into that?

in a very roundabout way.

So like everybody from Florida, I wanted to be a marine biologist.

And I actually went to school and got my master's in ecology during marine wildlife studies.

But my undergrad was in forestry.

So I, after doing research in grad school, I Went and applied for some consulting positions in the Tampa Bay area.

Got my first job.

Well, do you either of you have a favorite project or one that stands out the most from your career so far that you could talk about?