We don't wanna just keep painting the same picture and have investment and effort put towards places that may not be the most effective.

I think what Andrew's saying is really, really important.

And I think one of the way he started the conversation around how Aboriginal people view health as holistic is a really crucial part to the data story because this is what social emotional wellbeing is all about.

And it is a framework that has been developed by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people And it is a framework that describes what well-being means to us.

And it's very relational.

And it's about the connections that we have in life that keeps us well and that keeps us strong and keeps us resilient to things when things do go bad.

Because that's life.

But I'd love both of your takes on how we might go about that.