Mm-hmm.

And through that really developed her business plan, really developed the financial plan, and that was right at the time we were about to move.

We were in a 4,000 square foot space a street over from where we are now, and we were moving in to double the square footage.

So now we're in 9,000 square feet on our city's main street.

And we helped her go through all the financials, figure out how can we realistically do this for her.

And today, Whole Story Studio is a beautiful recording studio in our space, and she brings in beautiful narrators from all over the world to come in, and they vacation here for a week, and they record their books with Julie.

And she is such-

Mm-hmm