Where does she sit in your pantheon of stars?

Yeah, I think she definitely sits on the very top.

She has it all.

I mean, she's a very complete athlete.

So she's definitely, I would say, the favorite from my side as a pick.

I think where it can be tricky is the mental side.

Last year, you know, having experienced a Kona race like this can also kind of, yeah... be hard to come back and then have to trust in you so it will be interesting how she will handle this um will she go as aggressive as last year and will she have the confidence that she can bring it home and i mean yeah in ironman racing we just know everything can happen and she was

Is she your favorite, do you think?

What have you been doing with spinal cord injuries?

Yeah.

I've, I mean, I, I've been involved with, um, Wings for Life World Run, um, for, for, since the start.

Um, it's a, it's an event, um, Red Bull organizes to, uh, um, raise m- uh, money on funds for, uh, spinal cord injury, um, research.

And, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's a really great, um, cause.

Um, the idea is really to, to push the research to one day make it, um, I don't know how you call it, healable.

Um, to really, um, to find ways to, uh, yeah, in, in, um, in science to, um, yeah, to help, um, and s- make a step, um, in, make a progress in, in the, yeah, in the research and also in healing.

So no races, no races at all? Nothing?

How can you push yourself harder if you don't know what you're comparing yourself to? Can you share a moment or a ways or one career decision you made that you were taking a risk and really define your next chapter that changed what you were doing.

Yeah, I mean, there were definitely lots of little moments.

It's often these little moments, like I explained with the power before, with the watts.

There was one race where there was a bridge, I think in Dubai, and I just pushed hard over that bridge because I tried to...

I mean, Dubai is not very hilly, so you pretty much have only one chance to have an attack that's on the hill, on the bridge.

And so I pushed really hard over there and apparently my competitor, she looked at her watch and was like, oh, no way I can hold this.

So she let me go.

Go for it.