The essence of the work, as Daniel shares, is to center families' experience and voices in systems design.

I just finished my five-year anniversary.

It was a couple of weeks ago of being the president and CEO of the Steelcase Foundation.

And when those moments hit, you hit certain milestones, you think back, you reflect on where things have been, where you've come, what you're doing, things you would do differently.

And one of the real reflections and going back and thinking about the first six months, the first year on the job, I was I'm an educator by trade.

I was an assistant principal and a middle and high school principal in Grand Rapids Public Schools in Michigan.

And and then led a nonprofit here in West Michigan as well for years and came into philanthropy with a lot of questions.

The essence, as Daniel shares, is to center families' experience and voices in systems design.

This work is not intended to be like we're not intending to kind of frame this as like the most groundbreaking or new thing.

This is framed around really building upon years of progress that other folks in philanthropy, that nonprofit folks, that people in government, that people in a for profit sector, that they've been working to try to center community voices to advance.

You know, equity to strengthen systems through learning and relationships like these things have been have been being worked towards for a long time, talked about for a long time.

Sometimes they get lifted up more than others in different industries or different points in time.

But that evolution happens.

It is important for us to remember that this is a point in time reflection on what we're learning together, what's working, what's challenging, and how we're adapting.