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Daniel Werfel

Daniel Werfel

Former US Commissioner of Internal Revenue

Sep 16, 2026

10:22
Does the accountability and the responsibility fall on the tech company? Does it fall on our firm? And that's creating some friction, I think, between the firms and their solution providers.
10:33
It's such a good point.
10:34
Look, the technology is moving so fast and it has such eye-popping results in terms of productivity.
10:42
Yeah.
10:43
that it's moving quicker than, A, the risks being identified.
10:47
And we see the risks every day.
10:49
Like, you know, a great example, not in the tax base, but that I hear a lot about from people is they say to me, I don't want the map of Africa thing to happen to me.

13 MINS LATER

24:18
Is that the risk that you believe maybe the profession is most likely to
5:27
Why are those the big four in your view? that are incumbent on an organization to demonstrate that it's achieved?
5:36
Well, I didn't want people to walk away and say, so if I list all the relevant risks that for this moment where I'm about to deploy AI in my CPA firm or in my tax authority, then I really just was just a check the box exercise.
5:55
The reality is the discipline involved in putting the list of risks together.
6:02
By doing that, you're walking through the type of diligence exercise that I think is appropriate to to ensure that you're ready to deploy AI responsibly and as safely as possible given our current environment.
6:20
So by building that risk register, you have to be thinking about the scope of the product you're about to deploy.
6:28
You have to be thinking about how each risk would either manifest acutely or far less acutely as you're deploying that tool.
6:43
So the risk register, it sounds like a paperwork exercise, but the process of doing it right means that you're really triangulating your situation and getting yourself into a higher state of readiness to deploy AI responsibly.

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13:07
If you're reading this in that office, what could you take from these frameworks that applies to not necessarily a tax mechanism, but to other financial management mechanisms across government, Danny?
15:21
Give me sort of an overview.
15:22
Yeah, I mean, what an incredible experience to be a part of.
15:25
Got so much respect for Scott Strickland and the team there.
15:28
But, you know, we do it like anybody.
15:30
You kind of have your board and who you think are your top tier, and then you start also talking to others to see.
15:35
And the first Zoom interview we did was with John Sumrall.
15:39
And so, you know, that's my first ever interview for a football coach.
19:41
So tell us why you're here first, then we'll get into that.

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