Why does this matter to municipalities and to what we're talking about today?

So you're absolutely right Tasneem.

state land ownership is sort of scattered across provincial, national, local government levels and across state-owned entities.

And there are a whole lot of different interests on land.

Land which is earmarked for development may then also be subject to land restitution claim, for instance.

And that really speaks to the way in which different arms of the state aren't talking to each other.

There's no comprehensive record of all the different interests on land or even formal ownership of state land.

So just bringing it back to the manifestos, ones that we have available so far, What are the different approaches to land governance that you've identified in the manifestos that you've looked at?