But how do you think about sort of the broader value of public transit, whether it be to people or to cities, beyond just getting from point A to point B?

I think, especially here in the US, we have gotten used to the private cars, the primary way that people get around it.

Today, about 90% of people in the US commute by private car across the country.

It's fundamentally our mode of transportation.

The challenges that it creates are, number one, a lot of congestion, because you have a lot of people sitting in their own cars.

There's a huge amount of cost that comes out of that.

And you might say, well, you know what? It's still the most efficient way to get around given the way our cities are laid out.

When you look at the current landscape of the technology of autonomous vehicles as a whole, how do you personally think about its level of maturity and what interest VIA has in potentially adding it to its portfolio.

And the third part is how does AI is shaping VIA as a company, your internal application of that? People talk about

AI a lot.

And I think there's a lot of use of it in sort of nonspecific, very jargony ways.

So maybe I'll try to provide some concrete examples.

I have an impact.

So one I mentioned a little earlier, one of the key things we're trying to do when we're partnering with the city is help design the optimal transit network.

And that's actually a hard problem.

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