If that's an accurate summation, can you tell us a little bit about why you think that assumption is, is dangerous and where we can look to, to, to really say, "Okay, and here's how it's been dangerous in the history of war before"?

Yeah, sure.

I'll, I'll take that one.

So you're right.

You know, we, we do just-- we talk about this, the, the 80 years of non-use creates w- we talk about as a dangerous illusion, right? That because they've not...

they haven't been used, it's evidence that they won't be used, right? They're being used to prevent war, and they will never be used in war, right? And we just, we just disagree with that.

And, and as you mentioned, history proves otherwise.

That's another way in which things are different now than they were in the previous 80 years.