Yeah.

There wasn't much variety then.

There was white cream and, and antique white matting, you know.

I mean, it was...

But anyway, uh, things started to change.

But as I would get in these shows to frame for, for him, and then he had a gallery called Walton Gallery in San Francisco, and Walton Gallery handled, again, prints.

He also was the founder of Editions Press, which was a pr- a professional print shop.

[laughs]