Daniel, how do you see as the technical or non-technical benefits of this new collaboration models also in frameworks like open source?

Well, open source is already like for decades the way and it has been decades now.

So it's really the at scale proven way how to best build and also over time maintain infrastructure type software.

Right.

So like if you look at anything really that's driving our digital world today, the software stacks that are at At the heart of our cloud provider systems, for instance, almost all the mission critical pieces there tend to be or are open source projects.

Whether we're talking the Linux kernel or a bunch of libraries that make up the operating system or Kubernetes or Docker, et cetera, et cetera.

All of that infrastructure that's running the planet is essentially infrastructure that no one directly really cares about.

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