Daniel Klaidman
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Sep 4, 2026
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Jad AbumradHOST
So if you take Dan Klaidman account of Harold Koh criteria as representative, and we personally have no way of verifying it, but if you take that as the norm, then maybe there is a strong vetting process in place.
Daniel KlaidmanGUEST
But I interviewed numerous people who participated in these meetings, and one of the things that um, I heard over and over again was that there was this kind of inexorable momentum toward killing and that the military people in these meetings could speak with a kind of tone of do or die urgency.
Daniel KlaidmanGUEST
In fact two of the people who I quote in my book used exactly the same metaphor to describe that sense of momentum that was very difficult to resist.
Daniel KlaidmanGUEST
It was like standing o-on a train track with a train hurdling towards them at hundred miles an hour.
Daniel KlaidmanGUEST
And that'sVerystronglanguageComingfroma lawyerthe signalthatsentsenttothe White HouseWasUhyou willbe takingmilitary actioneven thoughThetoplawyeratthe statedepartmenthas Saidthathithwouldbean IllegalAction
