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People don't speak to customers because there are a few different reasons.

The British, we hate getting on the phone with people.

It's very embarrassing.

But generally, it comes from a sense of I know better than my customers.

And I get where people are coming from, because when you're really passionate about something, you've spent so much time and energy on that idea.

Is there an example of of in like the real world that you've seen of like two companies like doing these things? kind of things and finding this out the hard way and then changing their whole

What patterns did you find as you looked into that data?

So the data came about a lot due to frustrations how the DOD reports on these issues, especially with issues like a blast overpressure mortality rates.

They often don't compare their numbers to other populations, so it makes the numbers kind of useless.

I started looking at the unique risks suffered by female service members when I was getting my PhD at UNC, and when the Army gave me a spreadsheet with over 5,000 deaths and 14 years of data, uh, it was hard to try to figure out what to make of it.

So I had to compare it to DOD, FBI, and CDC numbers, and what I found in the trends is that over this time period, the rates of death for homicide and suicide were higher.

And even after the reforms after the death of Vanessa Guillen, the rates of suicide and homicide actually increased in the United States Army, and that was extremely troubling due to all the press and all the legislative changes that had occurred.

It implied that these changes perhaps are not effective, and it's unclear what we can do with that, because if we attempted to fix the system and it wasn't fixed and people are still dying, then what are the next steps? And that was really what was troubling to me.

And Daniel?

daniel let's follow that on with a couple of extra details here i mean you looked at more than a decade of data and this is not a story about a single installation or just a handful of cases what patterns did you find as you looked into that data

So the data came about a lot due to frustrations how the DOD reports on these issues, especially issues like a blast overpressure mortality in the ranks.

They often don't compare their numbers to other populations, so it makes the numbers kind of useless.

I started looking at the unique risks suffered by female service members when I was getting my PhD at UNC, and when the Army gave me a spreadsheet with over 5,000 deaths in 14 years of data, it was hard to try to figure out what to make of it.

So I had to compare it to DOD, FBI, and CDC numbers.

And what I found in the trends is that over this time period, the rates of death for homicide and suicide were higher.

And even after the reforms, after the death of Vanessa Gillian, the rates of suicide and homicide actually increased in the United States Army.

So if institutional attention starts shifting away from these issues, what makes us think the outcome gets better if we make it less visible?

Yeah,

that it's a fiery trial.

And so they were kind of saying that if you take medicine, that you're nullifying God's two purposes in sickness.

So you get these theological debates around medication.

So for Newton to be advocating medical advances is a really significant thing to do.

And it's much more...

It's not so much that he's got this modern... you know, in the technical sense, a kind of modern viewpoint where he's willing to embrace scientific methods and things like that.

And yes, different tunes, but there is predominantly this tune that it's mainly sung to, isn't it? Yes.

Mr. Johnson?

Yeah, for me, it was different.

It was a really incredible event.

This was our fifth one, and we had worked really hard over the last four to try to scale up every step, trying to build a bigger world, bigger platform for students, tighten up our technical abilities, help students with their talks, And this year we reached and surpassed where we wanted to go.

So the inclusion that we had with the amount of students from different schools was incredible.

The level of talks was groundbreaking for youth talks.

And the discipline that everybody had was incredible.

It reminds me of those, those little loop bends that everyone has to make personal to it.

So I think that's what... that's the- the crux of this matter, in that the British government made someone stateless.

Um, well, uh, I- I- I- I guess that is true, but I don't think that is a reason for unpicking all the extremely complex legal argumentation that went on when this case went through the courts.

Uh, and just simply, um, you know, cutting the gor- the Gordian knot with- with a very simplistic, uh, idea of, um, human rights overriding the-... equally important rights of, um, of the British people and, and their elected representatives.

I mean, what we're r- what, what, what the ECHR is saying is that it alone, uh, on the basis of its academic arguments, uh, can set aside, um, our entire legal system.

This is a system that is much older than the ECHR, you know, it's, it's, it's thousands of years old and, and we're very proud of it.

You know, the ECHR derives a lot of its jurisprudence, I think, from, from this country.

And it's just going to add fuel to the fire to that particular debate, isn't it?

It is.