That's the only one I could see the blades.

Yeah, it was a side on the ground and it was like a warehouse next to the parking garage.

The blades are spinning, but they're coned up so high.

They're almost, man.

45 degrees up, the blades are combed up.

They're still spinning, and it's more than obvious once the crash scene picture afterwards, the blades are intact.

Yeah, there you go.

Can you talk about just, you know, those kind of flight regimes, if you will, of where you're operating, how that translates to what happens if the engine quits and, you know, law enforcement versus news helicopters and operating in those areas?

Mm-hmm

... which obviously was close to, well, it's max weight is 10,000 pounds.

Who knows how much it weighed there.

But that puts out a much larger rotor wash, and it was much higher.

And judging by that, uh, what, Super Cub or whatever that, uh, that it rolled over, yeah, it looked like that Super Cub had, um, hit that rotor wash over the runway, and ended up flipping over towards that Huey.

On this one here, this, uh, 407, just from the ADS-B stuff, looks to me like they were doing a normal approach to landing, slowing down.

And whether they were talking to the Cessna or, or not, uh, they were getting off the runway.

Mm-hmm.

What's your view of how this has happened over the, the last year now and where your case stands now?

W- well, it's definitely been a, a tough year.

Um, do I agree with the total outcome? Obviously not, because there's still 16 misdemeanors over my head.

But, you know, I had to do the right thing, morally and ethically.

Um, there was so much evil going on within the walls of LAPD, something had to be done.

I had to take a stand.

I had to stand up for what's right, because I didn't take an oath to the police department, I took an oath to protect the citizens of Los Angeles, and that's what I was gonna do.

And so my question, two-part here, do you regret doing this? And now, are you able to do your job? I mean, they now know that you recorded what they said and, and took it to higher-ups.

And if, if you hike the bottom of the breaks, uh, I'm pretty sure you'll find that out.

This is the breaks.

And we always tell people like, if you know, you want to come out here and come to the breaks and you want to really experience what it means to, to be the breaks, go do Bob.

That's the affectionate name.

Meet our friend, Bob, uh, bottom of the breaks.

Uh, he, uh, he's got a reputation for, you know, wearing you out and, but it's just beautiful, beautiful canyons.

Like this goes back to that Canyon land, uh, scenery this whole time.

You just got to come hike it.

If, I mean, if you could, uh, take all the trees off of it, uh, you know, you'd be looking at something like you'd see out in Utah or Colorado, just a big box canyon in the east.

Yeah, and it's totally a different feeling, a different vibe when you're in the canyon.

Um, me and Ronnie talk about this all the time.

Like, the best time to hike is, you know, that early winter, um, through when the leaves kinda fall off, and early spring before leaves really start coming on, but they're just starting to bud, 'cause you can really see down in the canyon.

And you're walking on these benches that go f- in between cliff faces.

And then if the foliage is on, like, 'bout, like, 'bout this time, foliage is real thick, real lush, you can't really see the scale of the canyon that you're walking.

It's really remarkable.

You'd be hard-pressed to find any scenery like we've got anywhere in the Eastern US.