"Hey, it's okay to fail this way or that way, as long as I don't say the opposite in public." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think those were the two points that you raised at the beginning of the essay, and you can please articulate better than I have about what you meant by that.

Well, I didn't want to interrupt you till now, but they asked me to correct you, so I feel like the biggest hypocrite listening to your introduction and not objecting.

So it was too much there to object to and to correct you, so I hope I can be forgiven for that hypocrisy or phoniness if I'm at all implying that anything that you said until now in the introduction was true, or that my vast contradiction to that through actual reality should not be perceived as at least not unusual or unforgivable hypocrisy.But other than that, so in terms of that formulation, so there was a lot that was correct.

I would add to it a little bit, and I would say just to expand the basic thesis a little bit.

So first of all, actual hypocrisy, which we could define more in a few minutes, especially you brought up Mondani.

There's a lot to say about there, about the different flavors of hypocrisy that are relevant there, and some are far, far more egregious than others.

Some very genuine hypocrisy in that case of the real sense.

And we're like, "What?" And the other side, do you hear where I'm coming from?