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Daniel Estrin

Daniel Estrin

Oct 20, 2026

26:27
Tell us a bit more about who he is and his political background.
26:31
He was the former military chief of staff under Netanyahu.
26:36
And he left the scene, but he came back to the public eye after October 7th.
26:42
He joined Netanyahu's war cabinet to help lead the war.
26:46
He quit around a year later.
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He criticized Netanyahu's handling of the war.
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And...

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38:45
Daniel, what did you take away from these conversations you had with Israelis from all walks of life about the the future of the country and whether there is a shared vision for what happens next.
5:52
Yeah.
5:52
Um, Netanyahu's cabinet ministers came out and said, "Oh, this looks like a bad deal," and saying that Israel should not be beholden to it.
6:00
Um- And many Israelis were upset at Trump for not going all the way, uh, in Iran, not continuing to bomb Iran, stopping short of regime change, forcing Israel to stop.
6:13
Um, Netanyahu held this rare press conference this summer right as the memorandum of understanding was announced between the US and Iran, and, and he walked this very, very fine line where he was saying, "I've known Trump many years.
6:28
We often see things eye to eye.
6:30
There are some things we see less eye to eye." And that's really extraordinary.

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Mm-hmm
26:52
... and Jerusalem, but they were stuck next door in Jordan because Israel had turned them away at the border, uh, saying that they were concerned they were coming to, uh, see what Israel was doing with the Palestinians.
15:32
Daniel, what about Israel's leaders? What are Netanyahu and others saying about how long they foresee this operation going?
15:39
Well, one person briefed on, uh, the strikes and on the operation told me that the expectation is a couple of very intensive days, um, talking about an intense Sunday, an intense Monday, so that, that would be three intensive days, and then, uh, it might last for some days, um, after that, maybe as long as a week.
15:59
Um, I think we already are seeing indications that the Israeli military opened with an enormous blitz.
16:04
Uh, it says it has completed its biggest air force operation in Israeli history, 200 fighter jets hitting about 500 targets throughout Iran, um, and focusing, a- as I mentioned earlier, on those three places where they say that the senior leaders were meeting.
16:21
So opening with a major surprise, um, and we heard from one former Israeli military intelligence chief, Amos Yadlin, who was saying that he predicts what he called a hit and run, so a few days or maybe up to a week of strikes, and then he predicts some country stepping in and mediating a ceasefire.
16:42
Uh, he said it's very plausible that the US and Iran could then go back to negotiations, and the US would make, uh, some very tough demands, um, whether that's zero enrichment of uranium and other demands on its nuclear program.
16:56
Um, he says the big factor's gonna be who's been killed among Iran's leadership this morning.

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In terms of diplomacy, in terms of the fears, concerns, risks, opportunities, uh, uh, you know, that, that the rest of the Middle East sees in this, just give us a few things to, to listen for and watch for.
6:28
How are things going? And could you start with, like, an overview of the major goals of this plan?
6:34
So here's how the ceasefire plan was laid out.
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To begin with, Israel and Hamas would exchange hostages and prisoners.
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A surge of humanitarian aid would enter Gaza.
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Hamas would disarm.
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A multinational peacekeeping force would enter Gaza, alongside a newly trained Palestinian police force.
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Israel would withdraw its troops from Gaza.

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What feels most relevant to you in this moment?
5:55
W- what were the biggest grievances from Israelis who protested over the weekend?
5:59
Well, we've seen sustained protests, uh, every Saturday night-... for much of the last year, uh, by hostage families, families whose loved ones are still held in Gaza, and their supporters.
6:12
You know, polls show that most Israelis want this deal that Trump has put on the table, they want it to succeed.
6:20
Uh, a recent poll found 66% of Israelis want that.
6:23
Um, now there are some ultranationalist Israelis who have seen this war as a golden opportunity for Israel to expand its territorial gains in the West Bank, even in Gaza.
6:36
They're going to be disappointed with parts of, of this plan, and they are disappointed, we've heard.
6:41
Uh, for instance, Trump had initially floated at the beginning of his presidency this year, uh, an idea of, of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza.

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As you've covered this war and paid attention to the coverage from other outlets, what do you think we have perhaps missed? Or what do you think has been under-discussed or, or not understood as deeply as it should've been? Um, especially now that you have two years to reflect on that coverage.

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