You seem more interested in being a listener.

Yeah, look, I mean...

My my goal in life, really, my purpose is to kind of help realize my divine potential and help other people do that as well.

And obviously, that takes a lot of, you know, listening for sure.

The whole genesis, I would say, of the book and then ultimately the Legacy Academy really came from two things.

My mom, unfortunately, passed away from a brain aneurysm when she was 44 years.

And, you know, that's obviously was so tragic.

So how do you keep those rituals conscious and fresh?

Mm.

But if somebody has a mentor...

And by the way, we should, you know, it's like paying it forward.

Like, we all have friends or family members maybe that are going through a difficult time, so it's important to give them the strength to know that...

Somebody said to me many years ago when I was talking to a group of women I was studying with, I said, "What was one of the most impactful conversations you've had in your life?" She said, "I was 15 years old and I was a little bit of a wild child in high school, and I used to go into the principal's office a lot.

But one time I was in the principal's office and the principal said to me, 'I know you made a mistake.

I know this is what you did.

Yeah.

I want to ask, so if we start doing this and we've got a good workplace going, how does it help improve teamwork from not having it to having it so that our audience can see the difference that this can actually do? What are your thoughts around that?

So I do think that one of the key things again, values around this idea of legacy and purpose-driven is... really rooted in a notion of, you know, it's a faith idea, but it's also an idea that I think we can all relate to regardless of faith, which is everybody is created in God's image.

Everybody has something unique to contribute to the world around them.

And when we cultivate an attitude of humility, of not what I like to say, digging for the dirt, but mining for the gold, You'll find that there's a greater spirit of collaboration.

There's deeper grace when people make mistakes.

You know, one of the hard things is that sometimes people make mistakes, which is normal.

But we don't allow them to move on from those mistakes.

And you have a group of people

You know, wha-what does that actually mean? How can someone build a legacy? Uh, things of that nature.

Yeah.

So, you know, like I do think that, um, every one of us, and this is something again that I didn't like come to, you know, when I was, uh, just immediately, but I really over time, you know, began to think a little bit more, especially as I said after the tragedy of my mom, like, you know, number one, I learned after she died so quickly that life can change in an instant, not to take anything for granted.

But I would say for me, the pivotal moment really occurred when I got to the same age as my mom.

I always knew she was young.

But when I got to 44, I began to ask myself, it was a very scary year for me a little bit, I began to think, "Am I doing the most that I can with the life that God has given me?" And I began to think deeply about what really constitutes...

You know, I use the word life of legacy, but it's a life of making a difference.

No.

Mm-hmm.

Um, so that's a great method and it relies on the body to, again, do some of the hardest stuff like providing the blood supply and growing the squishy tissue and stuff.

We also have all sorts of other techniques like bioprinting of soft materials and producing these scaffolds that are custom shaped to the size, shape, geometries of the nose that you want, that kind of thing.

You can grow parts of yourself inside your body.

So if you have a missing chunk of bone in your jaw, there are cool examples where you can, um, regrow part of that bone in a titanium cage implanted, say, in your thigh or part of your abdomen so that it-

So what, what's the end goal of this research?

There's a couple of different directions that we're excited about.

One of them is very simple to state, which is just improving how well an implant integrates with and fuses into the body, to stop infections when an implant sticks through skin or to better attach implants to soft tissues, which we're really not very good at.